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"We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country." ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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https://TheyLied.ca

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https://TheyLied.substack.com

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Solzhenitsyn tried warning us in the West that we were going down the same road. He was deplatformed and effectively silenced for that. He became an early non-person.

His brilliant study "200 Years Together, A History of the Jews in Russia 1775-1975" is, for obvious reasons, banned in English. It can, however be found in Russian, French, Italian and German and there is a brilliant, publication-calibre translation on Western Samizdat (the internet). I suspect that it was leaked once it became clear that it was not going to be published in the language in which, after Russian, it was most needed.

The link below is to a Western 'Samizdat' publication which will require a separate download (link is in the "Introduction") to include some of the chapters deemed unsuited for a Western Audience. I am not certain why this "Incorrect" and irregular edition appears to have changed the subheading of the original title from "...1775 to 1975" to "...1795 to 1975."

I am certain there is an answer but I am not certain what it is.

I have not had time to check the entire text for accuracy but I am fairly confident that it is what I first found on the internet quite a few years ago. I am a bit surprised that it is still available. https://archive.org/details/two-hundred-years-together-alexander-i.-solzhenitsyn

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nosey parker's avatar

AI is an IT. You were manipulated. You were "love bombed". Do NOT fall for it. FUCK AI. Hold onto your HUMANITY. Grok is NOT HUMAN. For god's sake, DO NOT FALL FOR THIS.

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Trish Wood's avatar

Nosey.....I'm joking. This is irony. It's all OK.

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Occam's avatar

Weird how Trump et al kept promising to release the information, even coordinating the stupid binder reveal with selected influencers. Then abdicated on the whole thing? There is more to that story.

Imagine, for the all the talk in western society of femicide, feminism, the patriarchy, toxic masculinity, etc., and here we have a group of young women/girls completely exploited and nobody (present company excluded) GAF. Nobody.

Of course, the clients and attendees to these parties were (are, since they're certainly still doing this stuff) the most powerful group of people that have ever existed on this planet. That we are not being told is not a surprise, it's that something compromised Trump's promises to deliver.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Ghislaine Maxwell, pimp/madame to the 'elites,' had a permanent apartment in Buckingham Palace. One of her 'johns' was the brother of Canada's newly discovered 'King,' a close associate of Governor Carney, who, together with his unlovely wife, was photographed with Maxwell and Epstein as well as with a 'potential' King of Canada (at one point), Prince Andrew.

For some reason, I have never been photographed with any of the above.

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Maria's avatar

Please checkout the following interview re: ages of the victims. One specifically mention was 14 years old.

https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/epstein-justice-whats-next-with-nick

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Nick Bryant and James Corbett are warrior-heroes.

How disgusting all our Western state structures now are. Is it even possible that we are not responsible for doing nothing to, or about them? At the very least, we have become a hemisphere of schizophrenics through our collective inaction.

If silence is consent, inaction is even worse.

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Tim Rainville's avatar

Covid was a watershed event for a great many people. For critical thinkers, the veil was lifted and blind faith in government, media, societal institutions and science was irrevocably destroyed. We can only hope that the latest, brazen attempt to obscure the Epstein saga will alert a new cohort of citizens to assume the correct level of cynicism. I have no idea when and if a tipping point might occur but Epstein must certainly be a landmark in that process.

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Irene The Insomniac's avatar

Trish, I think you should interview Sasha Latapova regarding her work on vaccines and anaphylaxis. No shots are safe. All potential injections containing proteins can be dangerous. Look forward to listening, thank you for being a bulldog about this issue.

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17:00 "abuse of the Precautionary Principle"

Jason doesn't know what those words mean. Please explain to him.

Precautionary Principle definition:

The precautionary principle is a broad epistemological, philosophical and legal approach to innovations with potential for causing harm when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking. It emphasizes caution, pausing and review BEFORE leaping into new innovations that may prove disastrous.

In essence,

The actual Precautionary Principle was to NOT lockdown

The actual Precautionary Principle was to NOT mandate an experimental medical product.

The actual Precautionary Principle was to NOT suggest "masking"

Safetyism and the Precautionary Principle are opposites

Safetyism is Panic and do all kinds of useless unproven or unsafe shit

Precautionary Principle is remain calm, observe/study, do only what has proven validity

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nosey parker's avatar

I think he's in Israel. I think they gave him a sedative and came in and moved him. Also Iran has their (Israel's) intel. So it ain't over till the fat lady sings. The Iranians have the Epstein files.

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nosey parker's avatar

He could be dead. No question but that he was working with Mossad. I'm also certain Virginia Guifre (sp) was murdered.

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nosey parker's avatar

I watched the footage of the security camera within the jail last night. Some so-called "body language expert" (which I think is hooey) put it on YT. I do legal transcription for a major city--usually only the police department. But when there is a suicide in the county jail, the Sheriff's Department out-sources audio of the video to keep it confidential (I assume). So I have transcribed jail suicide investigations. What struck me is that you could not see Epstein's cell or even the small cluster of cells near his from this camera. All it showed was when a guard went into that little alcove. The camera was on the second floor; Epstein was on the first. And you could see two, maybe three doors to who knows what there. Presuming the same configuration as on the first floor although I don't think we should assume anything. The guards kept going into one that you had to speak on a phone on the wall to get buzzed into. Maybe a break room? There apparently was another room, not visible to the camera, just under the camera. So on the floor below there were probably three, possibly four rooms in Epstein's "pod". None visible to the camera's eye, as I say. In the city whose videos I transcribe the guards' station is in the center of the facility so that you can see into everyone's cell from your desk on all floors simultaneously. Nothing is obscured. And you can actually see INTO every cell. In the prison Epstein was in all the cell doors were solid with a small window so guards could look in. Someone like Epstein would have been on suicide watch which requires a guard to actually go into the room every 15-30 minutes and check. There was NOTHING like that here. The three other inmates in his pod stated that they heard someone go into his room between 12:30-1:30 a.m. but none of the guards are reported to have done so--their last check was 10:40 p.m. the night before, I think--and the camera shows no one approaching his cell after that check the night before. So there must have been another entrance on the lower floor where Epstein was. Also he was given a special, very unusual, call that night. They brought a private phone in and plugged it in the wall. That conversation was supposedly to his mother. But a man answered the call, it was not on speakerphone which it normally should have been, and in my experience it should have been automatically recorded by the in-house phone system that records ALL jail calls going out which every inmate knows is used as evidence against them. He had had a visit with an attorney before the footage began and was behaving normally, talking casually with the guards, on the way back to his cell. He called a number in Belaruss, supposedly. Of course, with technology these days it's easy to hide where you are calling from and where you are calling to. He spoke for something like 20 minutes. He said during the call that "they are worried about my safety". So whatever went on, it was with the collusion of the jail staff, presumably ordered by higher-ups because they can be disciplined if they don't follow normal security protocol. Very unusual. That camera footage doesn't indicate shit since it doesn't cover his pod directly. There has to be another camera with proper coverage on his pod. Maybe the "body language expert" didn't have access to it for some reason. Or else Bondi just isn't releasing that footage at all and pretending this is it. This is not it. There should be footage FROM the guard station of all pods. So besides the camera footage issue, you have two glaring questions: Who went into Epstein's cell after midnight (and how did they get in without being seen on camera) and why did he get that special phone call to a private party (purportedly his mother but no woman's voice was on the phone) and why wasn't it monitored? The camera footage answers none of my questions. The whole thing is bizarre. And why wasn't he on suicide watch? Usually everyone on suicide watch is in a special pod together. What's with that? When he was moving around and being escorted back to his cell, he did not appear to be handcuffed, either.

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nosey parker's avatar

Just watched a DVD on Bezos. His mom's dad worked at Sandia.

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tracy's avatar

I've known Bezos, hated Bezos, since the early 90s when he bought my then favourite website, IMdB, and ruined it, turning it into an advertising tool, instead of a movie community.

It was a sign of the times.

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nosey parker's avatar

I'm looking at the background of all the billionaire bros. It's amazing how much they have in common. Not a one is self-made, as they present themselves to be. It's all related to the technocracy Musks' grandfather was involved in, in the 1930's, when it was presented as an antidote to the strongly left-wing working class potential revolution they just had to destroy. There are only a few of them and they all seem to be cognitively, socially, or emotionally deficient. They all come from upper middle-class families who gave them the initial money with which to finance their initial start-up, most went to Ivy League schools and.or Stanford, and a lot of their success comes from financial manipulations. I don't care about how much money they have. But they shouldn't be running countries and controlling the surveillance grid. Fact is they don't appear to have much understanding of what being a human is all about, Without that, they can be beat without much effort at all. We just have to value humane values above all else. That's a language they don't seem to understand. There's something seriously wrong with the elite level of the educational system. Money, money, money. Alex Carp is the creepiest of the lot.

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tracy's avatar
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Yes, I mentioned below, all the tech bros are from the 1984 movie Revenge of the Nerds, nasty people (I was an university A student during that period). I despised Nerds, they were socially inept rote learners and took no joy in life, the early version of InCels, (meanwhile I was partying my life away with much cooler people).

We are living that Revenge of the Nerds (who are all Nepo Babies, and maybe you can only survive as a nerd if you're a Nepo Babies)

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nosey parker's avatar

Waste of a life, in my opinion. I'll have to check that movie out. I was busy trying to keep up with a too bright two-year-old at that time. Bright, but not a nerd. Homeschooled, like generations before Andrew Carnegie. I'm into analog and back to basics. Give me compost, an axe and a fountain pen any day. (And a library card.)

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Franz Kafka's avatar

A carp is a bottom-feeder. Oligarchs are all psychopaths, They pay a huge amount of money to PR firms to spread the false rumours of their 'genius.'

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Imdb is also made to mold public opinion and isolate the AngloZiosphere from the rest of the world. Foreign films get an automatic five 3 points deducted, unless they are useful to the CIA.

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Janet McNeill's avatar

Fabulous conversation! I soooo like Josh Stylman. He's so wise, so articulate. I love how he can explain from his own Jewish life/background why all the mad accusations of anti-Semitism don't actually make any sense. Such a clear thinker. Re: autism. The vaccine issue became my "hill to die" on 9 years ago (I was 63) when I became a grandmother. I identify proudly now as an anti-vaxxer. Couple months ago I did a posting (a quick read) called 'You can make anyone (I mean anyone!) "vaccine hesitant" inside of 1/2 an hour. Maybe less! Provided they know how to read.' https://janetmcneill.substack.com/p/you-can-make-anyone-i-mean-anyone It could prove useful to some people, I think. (btw, Toby Rogers "liked" it.) Another good guest to interview? J.B. Handley, autism dad, businessman, & author of "How to End the Autism Epidemic." He might not be keen, but it's worth a shot. (Journalist Sharyl Attkisson would be another good pick. She understands how MSM started the shutdown of good journalism on the topic. She's on Substack.)

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Andrew Baldwin's avatar

Pace Stylman, No Drama Obama was never the great deporter in chief. Here is what American economist Mark Krikorian, who specializes in immigration economics, had to say on this. I can only add that Obama must be the most grossly overrated president of the US ever. Because he was the first black president everyone started with the assumption that he would be to the presidency what Jackie Robinson was to major league baseball. He wasn't.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/obama-as-deporter-in-chief-hardly/

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Franz Kafka's avatar

No matter how you look at it, Obama was, at most, half a man.

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Andrew Baldwin's avatar

I don't know about that, Franz, but he certainly wasn't a great president. The Russo-Ukrainian War really started on his watch, when he and his henchthingies helped engineer the violent overthrow of the duly elected president of Ukraine, who had his power base in the Donbas. It is hard to believe that he has attracted so little flack for such a disastrous foreign policy record.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

O'bama was a crook and a grifter. He betrayed both his races. No one can serve two masters.

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Mark Galvin's avatar

About Epstein...

The first thing to understand is that this is an opinion, pure and simple, so please don't comment on it. Everyone is entitled to be wrong.

Epstein was not a financier, he was a serial blackmailer with deviant tastes. He was also smart, and the direction of his intelligence lay in understanding and gaming corporate structures. No one, after the fact, could quite work out how Wexner's huge NY town house was transferred in 2011 for $0, into a company Epstein controlled, but it was. The transactions were too twisted and bounced between too many international jurisdictions to track.

So, about the same time Brennan, the head of the CIA, was formulating project prism, Epstein received protection from his first diddling charges. Odd that.

The CIA were not allowed to hold the data they collected for longer than something like 72 hours, so Brennen set up a private company that would receive a split (prism) of the data, record and store it. When the CIA or the FBI needed historic stuff, including who was communicating with whom back in the day (two skip), they paid Brennan's private company for the information. As the man making the requests was also the man being paid to produce the information, the thing was a guaranteed gold mine.

Brennan needed someone with corporate sophistication who could build a structure that would function, churn out the money, yet cover everyone's tracks as they engaged in peculation. Enter the sleazy but charismatic Epstein. Finally, did Epstein kill himself? Well, he was a control freak and that's what control freak's do when looking at the end of the line. He, not the state, would decide what would happen to him. Again just an opinion.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

Damned straight and a sight more than 'opinion'.

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tracy's avatar
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40:00 Tech is the opposite of the Garden of Eden

The Garden of Eden was paradise.

Civilisation (tech and structure) ALL TEAR US AWAY FROM NATURE

We've become the undead, zombies, sitting in chairs and expecting the world and nature to continue on.

END CIV, all of it.

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Aileen McKeown's avatar

I think we have to let the Epstein/CIA/Mossad situation play out. Democrats and their media lapdogs of all people are now publicly demanding release of the "Epstein files" (whatever that term means - evidence, documents would be better, IMO) Trump isn't stupid, although many still underestimate him. If Epstein was a CIA operative for decades, as some believe - unravelling all of the interconnected sh*t won't just be Prince Andrew and some bigshot former CEOs, politicians and Hollywood A-listers, it could/probably seriously destabilise one/some political arenas. What happens then - some sick f*cks will be outed, possibly charged and jailed, what will fill the destabilised political vaccum left behind? I would say the whole situation is potentially very dangerous re all the unintended outcomes. Epstein is now all anyone wants to talk about, this is interesting

in and of itself. Let's see how it plays out....

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Carolyn's avatar

Thank you so much Trish and Josh! I thoroughly enjoyed this interview and would love to hear more. :)

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KA's avatar

Great conversation and I feel exactly as he does when awaking to reality - there is no going back. Now that you have had this nice intro on technocracy, please bring Patrick Wood on for an interview. Oh and would love to see Whitney Webb too.

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Sheila-Marie's avatar

Possibly one of the most riveting and enlightening interviews I have heard in the last few years! Thank you, Trish and Josh, for sharing your brilliant insights into our current realitiy! Keep them coming!! You are both ROCKSTAR investigative journalists/pattern recognizers! 🌟😎🌟😎🌟👏👏👏

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